Statement and Goodbye
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I was a great supporter of VestaCP. It was the most amazing panel ever! However, if you are using it on production servers with serious websites, you need to be assured that everything works like it should.
For me the issue was never the lack or slow development of new features. It was all about communication, timely bugfixes and security fixes.
I was having a very difficult time with Ubuntu 18.04 when it was no supported for a year after its release and the team was either unresponsive or not admitting that there were issues with the installation. The milestone was when imperio publicly insulted me.
I consider myself very lucky that I found HestiaCP. The major difference is that I have the piece of mind that communication is excellent, respectful and issues are solved fast. And the truth is that if Vesta didn’t exist Hestia wouldn’t either. And we need to be grateful for Vesta’s team contribution for initially creating that awesome product.
It’s not that Hestia cannot be improved. The team there is also small and they cannot allocate all their time for the project. But they are very open to community’s contribution (PRs) and take issues and user’s feedback very seriously, in a fast and efficient way.
I really hope that there was never a need for a Vesta fork. But unfortunately here we are. Users have now choices and can decide themselves what best suits them best.
For me the issue was never the lack or slow development of new features. It was all about communication, timely bugfixes and security fixes.
I was having a very difficult time with Ubuntu 18.04 when it was no supported for a year after its release and the team was either unresponsive or not admitting that there were issues with the installation. The milestone was when imperio publicly insulted me.
I consider myself very lucky that I found HestiaCP. The major difference is that I have the piece of mind that communication is excellent, respectful and issues are solved fast. And the truth is that if Vesta didn’t exist Hestia wouldn’t either. And we need to be grateful for Vesta’s team contribution for initially creating that awesome product.
It’s not that Hestia cannot be improved. The team there is also small and they cannot allocate all their time for the project. But they are very open to community’s contribution (PRs) and take issues and user’s feedback very seriously, in a fast and efficient way.
I really hope that there was never a need for a Vesta fork. But unfortunately here we are. Users have now choices and can decide themselves what best suits them best.
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ScIT thank you for your support.
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alexcy, thank you for your feedback.
This is forbidden on our forum. Send me a message or link on the topic in which I insulted to you.The milestone was when imperio publicly insulted me.
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Just for the records, I even wrote you about this back in 2018:
But to be honest: The post looks edited now, even I do not know, if alexy means this post.
But to be honest: The post looks edited now, even I do not know, if alexy means this post.
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I am not going to continue discussing about this particular matter. It is not my intention to either get into a debate or harm this community in any way. I just wanted to express my views with the opportunity.
For the record, imperio, we had a private discussion on this matter. Check your messages.
For the record, imperio, we had a private discussion on this matter. Check your messages.
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I read all our messages. Can't find where I insulted you.
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Well you said you were “sorry about that”.
Anyway, point is people who forked HestiaCP are not crazy. They were VestaCP members, moderators etc.
Come on, why should they get into that trouble and time consuming work if everything was operating smoothly?
The answer is simple. Problems unsolved for ages (eg Ubuntu 18.04 support for 7+ months after release), GitHub issues never dealt with (or even replied), PRs never checked and merged (eg IPv6 support being ready and never merged for years now). Serghey even told me to make a PR about replacing MySQL with MariaDB and he didn’t even took a look at it. Not to mention security issues.
Last commit on Vesta’s GitHub was more than 3 months ago. And that was about merging a translation fix!
Anyway, point is people who forked HestiaCP are not crazy. They were VestaCP members, moderators etc.
Come on, why should they get into that trouble and time consuming work if everything was operating smoothly?
The answer is simple. Problems unsolved for ages (eg Ubuntu 18.04 support for 7+ months after release), GitHub issues never dealt with (or even replied), PRs never checked and merged (eg IPv6 support being ready and never merged for years now). Serghey even told me to make a PR about replacing MySQL with MariaDB and he didn’t even took a look at it. Not to mention security issues.
Last commit on Vesta’s GitHub was more than 3 months ago. And that was about merging a translation fix!
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Alexy, read my message on first page againSerghey even told me to make a PR about replacing MySQL with MariaDB and he didn’t even took a look at it. Not to mention security issues.
Last commit on Vesta’s GitHub was more than 3 months ago. And that was about merging a translation fix!
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You answer selectively to my points. Please answer the rest as well.
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Would this be a pool of another arguments, if you are happy with hestiacp, please use it.